Doctor Who: Turn Left
Jun. 22nd, 2008 11:35 pmRight, someone is going to have to point me towards some fabulous Donna icons because it's simply not on that I don't have any of her. She is fabulous.
Couple of points of interest behind the lj cut.
- I completely forgot that the Titanic ship had a nuclear storm drive. Oh god, seeing London getting wiped out like that. Wow.
- Rose fixed it so that Donna would win the lottery, then?
- I'm a bit spoiled thanks to the Confidential however...seeing Rose like that? That was my Rose. The strong, capable Rose who doesn't want to be addressed with a title and helps build a freakin' time machine and she's grown up lovely. She's fantastic.
- OMG ROSE YOU AND YOUR MASCARA. NEVER LEAVE ME AGAIN. *hugs tight*
- Donna is lovely and it is amazing how she's thrived almost in spite of her mother's...attitude towards her. How devastating it was to have her mother, drained of everything, saying that "yeah" in response to Donna admitting she was useless. GOD that hurt.
- Without the Doctor, everyone still fights but they wind up sacrificing their lives for it. That was the horrible lesson. I mean, even in the very end, Donna sacrifices herself to right the altered time line. Rose unable to lie to Donna at the very last moment when Donna was hopeful and thought they'd all live and Rose apologized, OH MY HEART. And Rose's "I'm sorry" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY of the Doctor's "I'm sorry. I'm so so sorry" lame apologies.
- DONNA.
- DONNA!!!
- Turn left, turn right, one simple turn upending the universe. I'm fascinated by this point that they're making about Donna being important, I think it's tremendous how natural it's felt to me as I've watched S4, of course she's important, she's Donna. Catherine Tate has really impressed me over the course of this season.
- The part where I completely lost my shit was the utterance of Bad Wolf. Honestly I wasn't expecting it and I don't know why I wasn't expecting it, DUH of course it ought to be that but I'd thought DW completely abandoned that meme and that disappointed me greatly since "the Bad Wolf paradox" (our first utterance of Bad Wolf in The End of the World) always struck me as meaning something greater. For the Doctor to LOSE HIS SHIT, for the TARDIS to freak out, for him to say, "It's the end of the universe." HOO BOY, I am so fucking there. It's a meme that has power to me since it was the big throughline that hooked me in but good the thing that got me really loving Doctor Who and it brought back this wonderful resurgence of happiness that I'd lost with half-assed plots and annoying character arcs never fulfilled (hello the lack of the Doctor's comeuppance re: his arrogance and the Master's completely dismal end to his potentially amazing arc) over S2 and S3.
- OMG DONNA. HI. I ADMIRE YOU A LOT. I LOVE THAT YOU AND ROSE WERE AWESOME TOGETHER.
- I need to force myself to calm down as last season, I was extremely hopefully only to have Last of the Tinkerbell Timelords close out the season. I will do so but I do hope...that I enjoy the last two eps. Yeah.
Couple of points of interest behind the lj cut.
- I completely forgot that the Titanic ship had a nuclear storm drive. Oh god, seeing London getting wiped out like that. Wow.
- Rose fixed it so that Donna would win the lottery, then?
- I'm a bit spoiled thanks to the Confidential however...seeing Rose like that? That was my Rose. The strong, capable Rose who doesn't want to be addressed with a title and helps build a freakin' time machine and she's grown up lovely. She's fantastic.
- OMG ROSE YOU AND YOUR MASCARA. NEVER LEAVE ME AGAIN. *hugs tight*
- Donna is lovely and it is amazing how she's thrived almost in spite of her mother's...attitude towards her. How devastating it was to have her mother, drained of everything, saying that "yeah" in response to Donna admitting she was useless. GOD that hurt.
- Without the Doctor, everyone still fights but they wind up sacrificing their lives for it. That was the horrible lesson. I mean, even in the very end, Donna sacrifices herself to right the altered time line. Rose unable to lie to Donna at the very last moment when Donna was hopeful and thought they'd all live and Rose apologized, OH MY HEART. And Rose's "I'm sorry" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANY of the Doctor's "I'm sorry. I'm so so sorry" lame apologies.
- DONNA.
- DONNA!!!
- Turn left, turn right, one simple turn upending the universe. I'm fascinated by this point that they're making about Donna being important, I think it's tremendous how natural it's felt to me as I've watched S4, of course she's important, she's Donna. Catherine Tate has really impressed me over the course of this season.
- The part where I completely lost my shit was the utterance of Bad Wolf. Honestly I wasn't expecting it and I don't know why I wasn't expecting it, DUH of course it ought to be that but I'd thought DW completely abandoned that meme and that disappointed me greatly since "the Bad Wolf paradox" (our first utterance of Bad Wolf in The End of the World) always struck me as meaning something greater. For the Doctor to LOSE HIS SHIT, for the TARDIS to freak out, for him to say, "It's the end of the universe." HOO BOY, I am so fucking there. It's a meme that has power to me since it was the big throughline that hooked me in but good the thing that got me really loving Doctor Who and it brought back this wonderful resurgence of happiness that I'd lost with half-assed plots and annoying character arcs never fulfilled (hello the lack of the Doctor's comeuppance re: his arrogance and the Master's completely dismal end to his potentially amazing arc) over S2 and S3.
- OMG DONNA. HI. I ADMIRE YOU A LOT. I LOVE THAT YOU AND ROSE WERE AWESOME TOGETHER.
- I need to force myself to calm down as last season, I was extremely hopefully only to have Last of the Tinkerbell Timelords close out the season. I will do so but I do hope...that I enjoy the last two eps. Yeah.
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Date: 2008-06-23 04:04 am (UTC)::hearts you::
Some people were sayin' this Rose wasn't the real Rose, I say HI AWESOMESAUCE, CAPABLE ROSE. yeah.
of course she's important, she's Donna.
::hearts you billionty::
And I too hope I don't get too disappointed this time around. Srsly, the only thing that saved TLotT for me was Martha going her own way because she realized she didn't have to prove herself to anyone, she's a rock star and that was it. Martha Jones saved the world, and that made Ten's... glowyness relatively ignorable, you know, as much as you can ignore a glowing, floating man. But this two-parter seems to be going on an epic scale and I'm liking everyone gets a bit of the action, although the balance in there is gonna be precarious, methinks.
Oh man, why can't RTD be Kripke?
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Date: 2008-06-23 01:58 pm (UTC)Yeah the only worthy point of TLotT was Martha effectively telling the Doctor to shove off and she's built a really lovely life working with UNIT and getting engaged to the HOTASS doctor. She honestly deserved it because Ten's treatment of her got me rooting for the Doctor to diiiiiie. I was that pissed at him.
If RTD was Kripke, I would be TERRIFIED moreso, man. Kripke does evil things without anyone trying to stop him, at least some of the exec. producers working with RTD sometimes stop him from going completely bonkers. "And then we'll end the series with the Doctor stuck in the darkness, pinned with meathooks!"
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Date: 2008-06-23 04:11 am (UTC)The Bad Wolf thing was just so freaking awesome :D And now I have to go back and rewatch, because evidently there have been quite a few references in S4 and even back in S3. -wriggles happily-
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Date: 2008-06-23 02:11 pm (UTC)Rose's attitude I thought was a big sign of how off things were. And she grew up, which is logical as it's been X years since seeing the Doctor (even if it's only been 2 years, which I'm not sure it has been exactly) and if she's been working for Torchwood, she's probably seen a hell of a lot that would have forcibly made her a lot more hardened. It's an awesome bit of characterization and I like how much Rose has shaped herself to step up to take a commanding lead and it all makes sense given her character arc over S1 and S2.
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Date: 2008-06-23 04:11 am (UTC)*twirls you*
The part where I completely lost my shit was the utterance of Bad Wolf.
HELL YES. I totally spazzed! And the TARDIS! And the Cloister Bells! THE END OF THE UNIVERSE!
Next Saturday can't come fast enough. *SQUEE*
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Date: 2008-06-23 02:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-06-23 04:52 am (UTC)As it is, my little shipper heart is still fragile and I still do not trust RTD (and I really want to use contractions but I can not find the apostrophe on this german keyboard) and I still cower in fear at what is yet to come.
RTD. Do NOT break my little, fragile shipper heart!
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Date: 2008-06-23 01:00 pm (UTC)You can't watch any of these episodes until you see Doomsday, woman.
Don't trust RTD EVER. But like. This episode did have a couple of um, moments that were very Doctor/Rose. Ahem.
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Date: 2008-06-23 07:19 am (UTC)*calms*
That was so brilliant. I never even noticed that it was a Doctor-lite episode because Donna and Rose were so brilliant and I just adored it so much. Donna...just fantastic. I love that they gave Catherine Tate something really amazing and tough and GRIM to do.
I am going to die waiting for these eps. Pip was near tears when she saw the preview for next week.
DONNA!
ROSE! ROSE! BAD WOLF! ROSE!
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Date: 2008-06-23 02:29 pm (UTC)OMGWTFBADWOLF.
I'm really impressed by Catherine Tate because while I was happy with her coming on as a Companion, I didn't realize how much I'd absolutely love her. For all that RTD is an evil, evil man, he was very correct in getting Catherine on the show. Despite her being known in the UK for her comedy, she's really nailed most of the dramatic stuff in the series and stood apart from the Doctor in a really refreshing and vital way.
And as a Doctor-lite episode, I think this was how it SHOULD be done. Wow.
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Date: 2008-06-23 08:05 am (UTC)Totally agree you regarding Rose. All grown up and freaking awesome.
Rose and Donna *hugs* omg! they were fantastic together.
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Date: 2008-06-23 02:33 pm (UTC)Rose and Donna together! TEAM AWESOME. I can haz them in their own show, yis?
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Date: 2008-06-23 09:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-06-23 10:14 am (UTC)she actually likes other women. She and Rose bond here, she and Martha got on like a house afire -- as opposed to the Rose/Sarah Jane catfight that upset me so much in School Reunion (Sarah Jane is my favorite Old School companion) and Martha's constant paranoid jealousy of Rose. Miss Evangelista called her "the nice woman." Maybe it's because she doesn't fancy the Doctor but in my experience women generally like other women.
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Date: 2008-06-23 02:47 pm (UTC)Maybe it's because she doesn't fancy the Doctor but in my experience women generally like other women.
No! Surely not. Why that would mean that somehow women don't constantly fight over men 24/7.
Actually I totally agree with you there. Donna's relationship to Martha was excellent as was her interaction with Rose. I remain really upset at the mangled way they had Rose and Sarah Jane play off each other, it was just too much.